A Flock Of Meme Gulls ([personal profile] aflockofmemegulls) wrote in [community profile] homemeless2013-02-22 08:55 pm

002 - The Stargazing Meme

Vega, Altair and Deneb, The Summer Triangle and the Milky way

the stargazing meme

oo1. comment with your characters
make sure to put names, series, & preferences somewhere!
you can use < ! > sans the spaces to make the comment "blank"
oo2. reply to others in character
oo3. use the rng and enter 1-10
oo4. play out what happens—anything goes!
oo5. profit? oh yeah!


prompts

one → meteor shower you just saw a falling star! and another! make a wish!
two → aliens what was that? was that really? omg no way a ufo!
three → lunar eclipse you've been sitting out for hours, waiting for this. it's so cool!
four → comet does it move fast or slow? either way, it's amazing.
five → full moon the moon is so huge! just don't look too long, it's really bright too.
six → star dust anything can happen in space. make up your own plot!
seven → solar eclipse this might be happening in the middle of the day!
eight → planet sighting is that a new star? nope, just a neighbor in the solar system!
nine → constellations do you know the stories behind these odd patterns?
ten → deep space normal stargazing isn't that much fun. you got a telescope!
profitableboron: (The future runs on slave labor.)

I'M GLAD

[personal profile] profitableboron 2013-03-03 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
[David's answers are always practical. Or, it should be said, the ones he gives Sam and the way he takes them end up being practical. There's nothing about David that gives Sam cause for alarm, that would make him scornful of his existence, or that has him wanting to throttle him for being what he is. Sam's not what he appears to be, either; although he's human in every way, he's a clone, and that...that's not something he could expect anyone else to understand. But he's a clone of a human, meaning he can't possibly ever be as sophisticated as someone like David.

That doesn't bother him in the slightest.
]

I was just thinking about the way it influences the tides, that's all. If it gets too close, watch half of Asia go underwater—that sort of thing. I didn't read anything about it being at perigee tonight, though, so thanks for thinking ahead of me on that one.

[Maybe David didn't read it or hear it. Maybe he had something programmed in him so that he knew every movement the celestial bodies would have in the next thousand years. It didn't matter to Sam. He got his answer, it was an answer that made sense, and that was really all that mattered.]

Might freak some people out, that's all.
supraliminal: (13.)

[personal profile] supraliminal 2013-03-04 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
[ david looks up, studies the imperceptible movements of the moon, and thinks about all the things he's studied with respect to this particular celestial body and the reactions that humans have to it. he's seen films starring the moon, read books with paragraphs and paragraphs of description about it, watched people dream about the thing, and time and time again, he's run into the illusion of mystique from something that he finds to be very much something functional. and despite that clinical conclusion, he equates that functionality with the perception of beauty. maybe an android's version of wishful thinking.

so sam's response garners a smile, one that says that david understands that concern. because sure, if the moon gets too close, everything would actually fall apart.
]

Asia sinking would be cause for concern, wouldn't it.

[ if he sounds a little too pleased about this, it's because david's sense of humor (something he thinks he was given in error, since no one seems to enjoy it) is a little skewed. ]

Though I do think that the impending possibility of that happening would hardly be kept a secret, unless some people had an agenda.
profitableboron: one wakes just as another quits (The cruelest irony of all.)

[personal profile] profitableboron 2013-03-04 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
[For his part, Sam had thought of the moon as a temporary residence. He had a three year stint on it that would undoubtedly keep his family in money for a long, long time. It was far more demanding than being on an oil rig for months at a time with a few weeks reprieve back home, and with far greater monetary recompense. If he completed his contract, his family would have to do a great deal of spending to run through the cash garnered during his stay. And since he knew (or had, but he never really had) his wife was responsible and had every bit of trust in her he could, he had no doubts that his time in space would make it so they never had to worry about a place to live or food to eat again.

Of course, she had never known Sam, and he had never known her. But for what a clone's thoughts and false memories were worth, he was sure that Eve and the original Sam Bell were living well and not wanting for anything.

Other than Tess, of course.
]

That doesn't sound like a very good agenda to have. [It's laced with amusement as he leans back, looking over at David in something akin to approval. Sam likes his sense of humor. Sam likes him in general, though he's well aware that some people wouldn't, no matter how much time they spent around him and had the ability to adjust to what he was; but David wasn't a what to Sam. He was a who. David had never treated him as a what, after all, so why would he think of him as that?] I mean, last I knew, China was still Communist, and they have a good chunk of land right next to the ocean, but on some sides...it would have to flood through India, Bangladesh, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam...that's a lot of collateral damage just to get at one country that puts people on edge. Vietnam's Communist too, though I don't think anyone worries about them much at all. Or even thinks of them, aside from...sweatshop stuff.
supraliminal: (4.)

[personal profile] supraliminal 2013-03-05 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
[ he listens to everything with a congenial patience, though he responds most to the phrase 'last i knew'. it piques david's curiosity, and he tilts his head to the side in that perfect sign of polite inquiry, though people would still find his straightforwardness with respect to asking things a bit off-putting.

but, in expert form, he prefaces his question with a quiet, mild:
]

May I ask you something?

[ a beat, and he asks the question anyway, because he knows from experience that sam will say 'yes'. he supposes that this is what people would consider a mutual understanding, and he's come to learn that it's what he can store in his memory as something 'pleasant'. ]

What year are you from?

[ there's a little pause here, as if to acknowledge that that question might be personal (the clone business, as he's made to understand, is a moral dilemma for humans). ]
profitableboron: (Never taking off our wedding band.)

[personal profile] profitableboron 2013-03-05 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
[Of course the answer would be "yes." Sam lived what short life he was meant to have answering all questions asked, if only because his life was purely business. The video replies he made of a personal nature never went anywhere. He wasn't sure if they were even recorded, if Gerty had a collection of Sam Bell responses that he'd kept in case something happened, or if they'd been shown to the suits at corporate to have a good laugh at. He didn't know where they went.

And after a while, he didn't know what he'd put on them. The little blips and "glitches" he'd seen in the video replies from Earth had always been blamed on transmission, or Tess not being pleased with the way she looked at one point or having to take a break and record after something came up. That there were people purposefully crafting them to look like suitable replies never occurred to him.

A lot had never occurred to him. It was why it was so much worse whenever he found out the truth. He didn't find it out over the course of months. He found it out in less than a day; and, in less than a day, Sam lost a life he thought was his and lost the one person he believed knew him better than anyone else. He found out the only person who knew him at all wasn't a person.

He found out he wasn't a person. When paired with someone like David, what reason would he have to deny him the basic, unalienable rights Sam had believed he had for three years? In what world would that be appropriate behavior at all?
]

I. [He thinks his hesitation is answer enough, but he doesn't feel like leaving David with a one-word reply is proper. David is a lot of things; physic? Not so much. At least, not as far as he knows.] I don't know. I'm not sure, I don't know how long the other Sams lasted. I don't know—I know that my, that his daughter was fifteen when I...I mean, it's easy math, right?

I just haven't bothered to do it.

[It's easy.

He does it in his head in less than a second.

He just doesn't like the answer enough to say it out loud.
]

Why?
supraliminal: (9.)

[personal profile] supraliminal 2013-03-05 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
[ it's a little remarkable to david that sam humors him at all-- the scientists on board the prometheus were all varying degrees of patronizing, except for the one exception of dr. shaw who managed to baffle him with her tenacity towards an intangible that he couldn't understand. he's cultivated the opinion that humans are hypocritical, selfish things (because why else would they create something with an identity, however false, and then keep on denying them what they've been given? it fails to make logical sense), and that he has the capacity to know better, but in the end, even that knowledge does very little.

the point of it all is nebulous, and it brings david back to a charming smile and a man burning his own fingertips: 'the trick is not minding that it hurts'. lawrence of arabia. if words could resonate in his hollow, android core, david would think that peter o'toole has gotten the closest to finding out if androids can dream.

the trick is not minding that it hurts, but david knows that for humans, hurt is a fundamental component. he identifies it in sam when he asks the question, and when sam is stuck on a response.
]

Just curious.

[ his own retort is calm, even. ]

I suppose I wanted to know if our times ever overlapped. Not a very good reason to ask such a personal question.
profitableboron: they ain't no clones of mine (Cuz if your clones don't dance)

[personal profile] profitableboron 2013-03-05 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
[Sam knew that Gerty was simple AI with a sort of physical form. He knew that he would go home one day and come into contact with other GERTY 3000s if they hadn't upgraded models on Earth. He knew that one day, he'd have his little girl on his knee, asking all sorts of questions about his stay on the moon, and that Gerty would be discussed as in depth as he could. As she grew up, she might ask about his companion on the moon, and Sam would talk about him with a great deal of respect.

He hadn't treated him so well at the beginning. In the end, Gerty had been the only lifeline he had ever had. He hadn't seen the footage of incineration. He never knew that Gerty not only woke him up, but would burn his body completely when it was all said and done with. The dirt on the floor had confused him. He never thought to equate it with human ashes.
]

I...suppose it was around 2044 or something like it. You gonna tell me you're from 400 and some odd, new acronym after it?
supraliminal: (11.)

[personal profile] supraliminal 2013-03-05 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
[ the inclination to laugh surges through his wiring, and david does so; the breath of artificial air is amused, placid, and not entirely without friendliness. ]

Would it surprise you to hear that I'm from 2089?

[ maybe david could go find himself one of the gertys, they could have an interesting conversation about the evolution of technology. david's never heard of a gerty 3000, and he's never met the 7 davids that came before him-- he exists in an isolated bubble of perfect, humanoid models and complex machinery. ]

Not even half a century ahead of you.
profitableboron: (At least you stopped boxing yourself.)

[personal profile] profitableboron 2013-03-05 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
[For Sam's part, he seems to take the information with a great deal of stride. Big Things had undoubtedly happened on Earth. Maybe they hadn't finally ended famine in certain parts of the world, but they were getting there. There were, most likely, still places where clean water was unavailable without long, daily walks at morning and night, done by the oldest and strongest sibling in a family without parents. The world was a mess, and no one corporation could clean it up, even if they had their fingers in the pies of a hundred countries. It couldn't be done.

But by God, they had tried. They had tried so much so that they declared training and other, real people too much money for a simple job like mining on the moon.

They had tried, at least.
]

It's not so surprising, if you're thinking it would be because of what you are. There could be, there could have been early models when I was on the moon. I can't be sure. Fifteen years doesn't seem like a long time, but we went from having to have clunky phones as landlines to super thin, useable by simple touch phones in that time, didn't we? It's not so unprecedented!
supraliminal: (13.)

[personal profile] supraliminal 2013-03-05 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
[ from phones to tablets. david supposes the comparison is apt, and relatively harmless, even though that little tick in the back of his wiring says that he should maybe be offended. it's pinocchio syndrome-- every time holloway had called him 'boy', he'd been reminded of how very far he was from the term he was being referred by.

but sam seems earnest about it-- it coincides with his knowledge of earnesty, and while david still has the inclination to think that he's better than a phone (obviously, that's indisputable), and that fifteen years is still a short amount of time to make a david8 (even if reality says otherwise), he's not made to feel angry.
]

Yes, I suppose that's true. My observations might have been slightly skewed in favor of how humans view time, and not to the speed of technological innovations.

That said, I have been told that I don't take up much space.

[ ...ok, but he's entitled to be a little sassy about this, right. the slogan is technological, intellectual, physical, emotional. ]
Edited 2013-03-05 02:26 (UTC)
profitableboron: (Daddy is an astronaut you cutie.)

[personal profile] profitableboron 2013-03-06 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
[The absolute last thing Sam wants to do is offend David. He hadn't meant it as an insult in the slightest, only a comparison. Yes, to a human being, fifteen years can be a lot of time. Hell, their average lifespan made fifteen years a fat lot of time and not much at the same time. And even though fifteen years might not be an accurate estimate on going from non-humanoid AI to fully functional humanoid AI, but fifteen years is all Sam really has as a reference.

He'd been asleep for something like twelve years. He'd been in a box in a shelf with so many more Sams that he hadn't bothered to count. He'd been tired and sick and hurt in heart, mind, body, and soul that he couldn't even be bothered to count how many were in a diagonal row and how many rows there seemed to be. He had figured it out and wanted it to end, and then he'd drove to see Earth for the one time in his life...

It wasn't meant as an insult. To Sam, fifteen years was a lifetime that he'd never have and had never been his in the first place. Fifteen years? Shit, Sam wouldn't know what to do with it.
]

Probably because you're so skinny. You could...you could wedge yourself between a rock and a hard place and still have room. I don't think we can fatten you up any, can we? That's...I was always kind of skinny. The fattening up, that never worked. It just...no matter how much I ate, I stayed the same. Of course, I can't really say that without sounding, I don't know, like I'm bragging or something, but if you're naturally skinny, getting over that? Could be impossible.

But it's a good thing!
supraliminal: (6)

[personal profile] supraliminal 2013-03-07 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
[ when something is built to outlast, to outlive, filling time becomes less of an obligation and more of an inclination-- limitations connotate a need, a desperation to find some sort of meaning to fill in the spaces between the void of nonexistence. this is something that david still doesn't understand about humans, their fervent search for something that will never practically benefit them in their limited lifespans ("they abandoned us, and i want to know why" --for what reason?) which might be the reason why people tell him that weyland was successful in stripping him of any real humanity. he suspects that they might be right, but david still considers himself, in that complicated system of falsified ego that he was given against his so-called nonexistent will, limitless, despite his lack of a soul.

by his own definitions, of course.

for david, 4 years on the prometheus with the crew in cryostasis is the equivalent of any 4 years in his given lifespan. he understands relativity, but doesn't experience it.

he also understands this discrepancy, which is the worst part.

but, well. sam always manages to make things a little less complicated, even though everything about the man is a mess of things that david can't quite put his fingers on. that's what makes sam indisputably a human to david.
]

Certainly. Making machinery that takes up extraneous space is something that went out of vogue many years ago.

[ self-deprecation? no. david curls his lips into a perfect half-smile. ]

As for you, Sam, no doubt your weight issues are the envy of many.
profitableboron: they ain't no clones of mine (Cuz if your clones don't dance)

[personal profile] profitableboron 2013-03-09 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
[Sam's not so sure about a soul—if he has one, if anyone has one—but the word can be a wide variety of things, from the idea of an eternal and lasting imprint of a person to a type of song that's extremely heartfelt. Does every human being have one part of them that never truly dies and continues on after death? He doesn't know. How can anyone know that? It's just another mystery, and it's one that Sam hadn't spent much time thinking about.

He had a moon to mine, videos to watch, and a job to do.
]

Yeah, there's lots of people who'd like to be skinnier. But. [He drops a hand to his stomach, grasping at what little fat there is on it.] If you don't eat enough, it makes you...you can get sick. Really sick.

Even if that food is crummy astronaut food. You can't always pick what you want to eat though, can you? At least, not in space.

[In space, no one can hear you scream for Chinese.]
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[personal profile] supraliminal 2013-03-09 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
[ his mild expression remains unchanging, while his memory churns and picks up images of green jello and congealed half-fluids. he would hike up his shirt to show sam his perfectly sculpted abs (it's a perk of being a perfect android), but he knows that that would be bragging.

the fact that that thought occurs to him at all is a testament of an existing ego. why else would he bother riding bicycles and playing basketball if he didn't at least feel a modicum of pride in his ability to do so?
]

I'm not sure, Sam. I don't believe I've ever eaten anything but space food.

[ when someone doesn't have a frame of reference, someone can't make an accurate assessment. david looks up at the moon, the fickle, ever-changing celestial body, and muses upon its closeness to the world. ]

But distance makes the heart fonder for the things you don't have, doesn't it?

[ he doesn't actually understand this concept, but longing is programmed intimately into his AI. ]

Does it make you bitter? The moon, I mean.
profitableboron: (Hallucinating home?)

[personal profile] profitableboron 2013-03-09 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
[Sam had kept himself as fit as he possibly could. It wasn't just for his job by the end of it, but for Tess and Eve. He didn't want to go back to Earth looking like a lumberjack with a paunch, had had his hair cut and shaved himself clean in preparation for the launch home. Some days he hadn't wanted to get on that treadmill at all, but an astronaut had to be in a certain shape, and who wanted to welcome back their husband plus thirty pounds after him being gone for three years? Sam wouldn't do that to Tess, wouldn't do that to his job.

Or himself, really; he liked being slender, even if he occasionally had to put some effort into it. He may not have had killer abs, but he had what was needed for his job. He had what he'd had when he left Earth, or so he thought. He was fine with his body.
]

Why would it make me bitter? [It's an honest question. He sees where one might think that, but Sam can't really hold it against the moon, of all things.] It didn't do anything. It just had, it had what we needed. It didn't, it wasn't something that was out to get me, or whatever you'd call it. It's not the moon's fault. It's the people, it's the industry. The heads in charge. I don't know, maybe the economy. The prices of training, of shooting off what they'd need, it's got nothing to do with the moon. I mean, I lived there. I know there weren't spies on it, running around, making sure I never knew the truth.

It's just the moon. Being the moon. That's not its fault. I'm not...it's always been there and always will be. No reason to get bitter at it. I'm not a werewolf or anything.
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[personal profile] supraliminal 2013-03-11 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
[ 'it's not its fault'. and maybe if someone had understood that about david, he wouldn't feel quite so hollow about being hollow-- bitterness is a vice that david embraced for a while as a virtue, something that spawns from complicated reactions, something illogical. if david can embrace entropy, he shouldn't be considered so static; like the faces of the moon, waxing and waning, it's not david's fault that he's prone to swings in artificially constructed, perfect moods.

david 'likes' sam. he folds his hands behind the small of his back in a perfect posture of attention, fingers linked and palms pushed together. there's no pulse, but if there were, it would be calm and steady. david is 'at ease'.
]

I'm glad to hear that it doesn't upset you.

[ spoken more to himself than anyone else, but david turns his head, fixes sam with a congeniality that he's practiced for occasions like these. ]

I understand that it's not easy to refrain from projecting one's insecurities onto someone-- or something--else. Though I also understand that doing so seldom makes things 'easier'.
profitableboron: (His only friend in the universe.)

[personal profile] profitableboron 2013-03-13 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
[Sam likes David. It's not an artificial feeling (as far as he's aware; even though he's a clone, he's still human—he's the clone of a human, what else would he be?), but nothing short of reality. It's not the same way he likes warm pasta or fresh air because David isn't a something like food or breathing. He's someone, not just a noun, but a proper noun. He has A Name. His name is David, and he is not seen as a robot or a very highly functioning computer program.

He's seen as David. And Sam? He likes David. He thinks he's well-spoken, well-mannered, and a good companion on a level that Sam can't really remember experiencing before.

He remembers the original Sam's studies and classes, the knowledge need to run Sarang properly, engineering and the path of the stars and skies. He doesn't remember friends. Maybe it was the radiation. Maybe it was the "crash" before he was awoken. Maybe it was easier to keep a man running along if all he had in the world to think about was a wife who loved him and a daughter who was waiting for her daddy, the astronaut.

He doesn't know much about humanity. He knows about inhumanity. He knows that people can be evil and foul, all in the name of pinching pennies while they tell the world they're doing great things to keep Earth at the pinnacle of properly functioning.

He knows that David is artificial. He knows that David is also, in fact, human in ways other people might overlook, if only out of spite or prejudice or ignorance.

Perhaps, due to Sam's issues with the most evil of people never met and yet who decided his life, it's easy for him to overlook David's robotic nature. Maybe it has something to do with the presence of a GERTY 3000 he grew to call by name instead of model, something to do with Gerty being the only friend he ever actually had. Maybe it speaks to Sam being unable to be a proper human, if only because he hasn't been as socialized as he "remembers" himself to be.

But he does like David.
]

I don't think it's easy. You know, for people, because...there's all sorts of things that happen when you're growing up that can impair inference on every level. It's not...I can't speak for everyone, obviously. But, ah. David, how do you feel about that sort of thing? It's—it's okay to talk about it. I promise I won't write a scalding complaint about you to Dad.
supraliminal: (13.)

[personal profile] supraliminal 2013-03-16 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
[ the prompt, 'how do you feel', is acknowledged with a faint gleam in perfect-blue eyes. he recognizes the query, digests it and places it in context, and it's not so much of a challenge to do so as it is natural-- natural for david8s, natural for him. he was built to know emotion. ]

Do you want my thoughts on projecting?

[ he shifts, distributing his weight perfectly from one foot to the other, assessing the height of the moon and its gravitational pull. celestial bodies, much like the extraterrestrials that he encountered, are absolute. perfect.

but maybe he's just projecting. it's a strangely relevant train of thought.
]

Well, if you promise to keep it confidential.

[ a little tug at the corner of his lips, a slight narrowing of his eyes, as if he's confiding. ]

I believe Peter Weyland may have been compensating for something when he created me.
profitableboron: (Daddy is an astronaut you cutie.)

[personal profile] profitableboron 2013-03-16 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
[Sam has spent the majority of his life away from the Earth. He hasn't known grass in a long time. So while David seems content to stand about, Sam takes a moment to pull his hands from his pockets, settle them down, and sit on the ground. It's not overly comfortable, but it's dirt and plant life and a planet he once believed he had been born and raised on. It's good enough for him. So he just sits, tucking his ankles under each other and letting his knees rest above the ground, elbows tossed over them as though he hasn't a care in the world.

If David wants to sit, that's fine. Sam's not going to make a big deal of it. From what he's seen, David tends to mimic people out of...well, he can only assume it's because he believes it makes them more comfortable. Like with drinking a beer. But if David wants to stand, Sam's not going to be uncomfortable with it. Sam just likes the ground.

One day, he hopes to be buried under it. Whole and with all the teeth he's got left as in tact as they can be, bald if he gets to be it. But he'd like to meet his end underneath it as opposed to...whatever happened to the bodies of the other clones whenever they got into that pod.
]

You mean that Weyland wasn't a perfect, handsome, blond-haired, blue-eyed fellow? You think he might have been wanting to look like you? I would never have guessed that, not at all.

[It's sarcastic. The men Sam knows of who look like David got contracts for movies or were models for fashion. One doesn't go out to the grocery store, usually, and see men like David.

Of course, Sam being who and what he is, he never went to the grocery store. Or the movies. Or looked through a fashion magazine. But he knows of them, at least. It's all he has to work with.
]
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OH MY GOD i never got a notif for this??? DW please

[personal profile] supraliminal 2013-03-21 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
[ the sarcasm is well-met, mostly because david agrees with it. there's a little huff of a laugh, almost arrogant if it weren't for the fact that david actually looks pleased about what sam's implying. ]

Objectively speaking, he was a good-looking man.

[ and there's a little pauses here, as if david is evaluating whether or not this is appropriate or within his jurisdiction to say-- though he doesn't know why he bothers, considering that he was there when weyland met his fate. force of habit, he supposes. in his wiring. ]

And then he got old.

[ sick burn. ]
profitableboron: they ain't no clones of mine (Cuz if your clones don't dance)

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[personal profile] profitableboron 2013-03-24 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
[He got old.

A burn for a good-looking man, certainly. For a man who only lived three years and isn't sure he was supposed to live any longer than that? It hurts, but he doesn't let it show, doesn't let it come across in his voice or anything like it. He's not sure if clones were only supposed to "last" three years or if that, at the end of those three years, there was something to do with radiation. Maybe Lunar believed they'd all be so eager to go home, so sick with cabin fever and feverish with the desire to see "their" wife and daughter that they wouldn't stop to really think about it.

The original Sam Bell would be much older. But Sam? He was never meant to get old.

Still, he can't fault David for it. David shouldn't be expected to tiptoe around anything that could possibly bother Sam. They're not talking about Sam anyway, but a man he's never met.

And, to be honest, is quite glad he didn't.
]

Aging is rough to those people who spent so long thinking they were the hottest thing that ever came out of a set of parents. [He shrugs one shoulder, flicking a bit of grass off of his pants before he runs his hand up to rest on his knee.] Vanity, I guess. You live so long being told that you're gorgeous, you do your best to stay gorgeous...and yet it happens. Inevitability, right?

[But not everyone goes off and makes David8s. What a lucky man this Peter Weyland must have been, to be smart and handsome.]